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Old Jun 18, 2006, 04:45 AM // 04:45   #1
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Hi guys,

I am just wondering why I run out of mana so easily with my orders nec, cause once I run out, I'm not much use?

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Old Jun 18, 2006, 06:13 AM // 06:13   #2
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Here they are in order of probability:

1. You're spamming too much.

2. You don't have high enough Soul Reaping.

3. Not enough things are dying.

4. You're using an absolutly horrible bar with high-energy skills that have little use.

I'm guessing it's somthing like 1, and 2. Or maybe 1, 2, and 3.

Posting your skills and attributes could possibly help sort out this problem.
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Old Jun 18, 2006, 07:01 AM // 07:01   #3
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Oh right,
7 soulreaping (6+1)
16 Blood (12+1+3)
11 healing (11)

Skills, I have heal area, heal party, healing breeze, res signet, Order of pain, order of vampire, blood renewal and dark fury.

Overall I have 44 energy. Also is it true that order of Vampire cancels out Order of Pain? If so, what elite should I replace it with?

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Old Jun 18, 2006, 07:24 AM // 07:24   #4
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You need better energy management. Drop order of vampire, and perhaps take offering of blood for energy.

I've also seen builds that use a combination of cultist's fervor, blood renewal, vigorous spirit and very low health to spam long-range party effect spells. The heal party spam fixes up a lot of your sacrificed health, and the blood renewal fills up the rest. It's pretty fragile though, and is probably only good for GvG.
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Old Jun 18, 2006, 07:25 AM // 07:25   #5
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Also is it true that order of Vampire cancels out Order of Pain?
If any other Necromancer enchantment is on people, Order of The Vampire will not trigger. So if Order of Pain is already cast OoV won't do anything.

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If so, what elite should I replace it with?
It depends on the build you're playing in, but for most builds that use orders Martyr is a strong choice.
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Old Jun 18, 2006, 07:49 AM // 07:49   #6
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I smell an Iway necro, and Iway is bad, stay away from evil.
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^^qft

Iway uses tainted ( they still do don't they? retired from tombs ), so OoV is pointless...

It was OoV that kept iway going....not iway itself IMO
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Old Jun 18, 2006, 08:31 AM // 08:31   #8
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Thanks for the help guys.

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I smell an Iway necro, and Iway is bad, stay away from evil.
I was actually thinking more along the lines of R-Spike.

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Old Jun 18, 2006, 08:41 AM // 08:41   #9
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If you're going the Rangerspike route, I'd reccomend taking Blood Ritual. Alot of Ranger Spike teams run a bonder that requests a BR, and most of the spikers(always 1-2 in every PUG...) run fairly low expertise and run out of energy very quickly, and then want a BR.
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